----- Original Message -----

From: Sharon McClure

To: 'James (Jim) H. Carroll'

Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 8:52 AM

Subject: RE: Moses Carroll

Jim:  Here's another item on the Carroll family.  In browsing the 1880 Census, I learned that John Wiley Carroll was listed as "maimed, crippled, bedridden, or disabled."  Since my files show he lived until 1947, his condition apparently did not shorten his life!  Also found that his brother, George B. Carroll & his father Nathan C. Carroll, Jr. were unable to write (in 1880.) My ancestor Moses Carroll also was unable to write in 1880.  I'm sure school/learning always took a back seat to farming in those days, and since Nathan C. Carroll, Sr. & wife Mary were unable to read or write in 1860, this skill was probably not pursued at home, either. 

 

Jim:  One more tidbit - In 1880, Nathan C. Carroll, Jr. lists his father's birthplace as "Atlantic Ocean."  Apparently he was born on shipboard en route to America!

Sharon McClure

----- Original Message -----

From: Sharon McClure

To: James H. Carroll

Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 6:55 AM

Subject: Moses Carroll

Jim,

     In case you don't have this information, I discovered through the Census that Moses Carroll did not live in Clark county, Indiana, his entire adult life.  I knew he was born in Kentucky, but I thought he came to Indiana fairly early.  Not so.

 

     I have found him in Jefferson County, KY, (right across the river from Clark County, IN) both in 1850 at age 34 and in 1860 at age 45.  The family is enumerated as we would expect, with his wife  being listed as Amy in 1850 & Tama in 1860.  My grandmother Ellen is listed for the first time in 1860 at age 7.

 

     What this means is that although Nathan Sr. & J.M. Carroll were already settled in Indiana in 1860, Moses became a Hoosier sometime between 1860-1870.  And, most interesting (to me), I discovered that Ellen's first name was Malinda.  I finally realized that the Malinda E. Carroll in the 1870 Census had to be Ellen, since both were born in 1854.  As the kids say, "Duh!"

Jim: It has been a while since I wrote, but I recently found online the
location of my grandmother (Ellen Carroll)'s grave.  She is  buried in
Walnut Ridge Cemetery in Clark County.  Her date of death is listed as Nov.
11, 1891.  A photo is attached.  (FYI - she was b. 1854,  married David
Jones of Clark County, & she is the daughter of Moses Carroll.) As far as I
can tell, my grandfather David never remarried.
Sharon Jones McClure

PS - My email address is changing.  At the present time, I can be reached at

----- Original Message -----

From: Sharon McClure

To: 'James (Jim) H. Carroll'

Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 9:28 AM

Subject: RE: Carroll genealogy site

Jim:

  Thanks for making that change; people are indeed living longer than in the decades before.  I found Nathan Carroll, aged 93, and wife Mary, aged 70, in the 1870 Census.  They were living next door or across the road from Moses Carroll and Tamar (listed as "Amma" ) with 3 of the children.  Also neighbors were Joseph Carroll and Martha J., in a household with 5 children.  Nathan, jr., aged 39 lives with wife Susan C. in the same community of Henryville, IN, with 3 of their children.  

 

     In 1880, Moses' wife is listed as "Amy," & they still have 2 children at home.  They live next to Ellen  Carroll & husband David Jones, who have 3 children;  the other neighbor is Mary Carroll & her husband James Clapp, who then have 1 child.  If you need the children's names or other Census information, I will be glad to share.  

 

Sharon McClure

My grandmother was Ellen Carroll, who married David Jones.  She
 lived in Clark County, Indiana, and died about 1889.   She may have died
 giving birth to my father Edward, or shortly after, but I believe she
 died in her thirties.  I have a large photograph of her that my father
 had framed when he was a young man.  I have a baby picture which may
 also be Ellen, but it has not been confirmed.  My father was a WW I
 veteran & died when I was only two, so I do not have much information
 about his family.  I have one small photo of my grandfather David & a
 woman who might have been Ellen.  Just this fall, I heard my
 grandmother's name for the first time, & I was overjoyed to learn
 something about my family.  Do you have any more information on Ellen or
 David?  I believe David is buried in Clark County, and I assume Ellen is
 also there. 

 Sharon McClure

----- Original Message -----

From: Sharon McClure

To: 'James (Jim) H. Carroll'

Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 8:24 PM

Subject: RE: David and Ellen Jones

Thanks, Jim.  I had already seen that transcription.  (It was IN, though, not Idaho.)   My next goal is to find David's parents in Wales - I think they may have immigrated about 1842. 

Have a very Happy New Year!

Sharon McClure

(I was later copied on this correspondence between Sharon and Ernest J. Carroll:)

----- Original Message -----

From: Sharon McClure

To: 'Pops & Mumsy'

Cc: 'James (Jim) H. Carroll'

Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 11:05 PM

Subject: RE: Carroll's of Clark cnty., Indiana

Hello, Ernest! 

     It's wonderful to hear from you!  I just discovered in 2002 that my grandmother was Ellen Carroll, & like you, I am a beginner in family history.  If my calculations are correct, we are third cousins, once removed.  I am descended from  Nathan Carroll, Sr., who was the father of Moses Carroll, who was Ellen Carroll's father.  Nathan  Junior  would have been Ellen's uncle.  Malinda E. Carroll is my grandaunt.

     Thank you for the census information.  That is one year I do not have. Yes, the dates are often conflicting.  I was told that the original sheets had to be re-copied by hand multiple times for the states' & counties' records, which created a lot of transcription errors.  Sometimes the census enumerator just didn't have very good penmanship or the pages were smudged, resulting in bad copies.  Also, if people were not at home, the census taker sometimes may have relied on neighbors' estimates of ages/names, etc.

     I have found the Carrolls in Clark County in the 1860, 1870, 1880, & 1910 Census - Nathan Sr. is 93 in 1870!  I have this information in detail if you need it.  I do feel Moses was either the oldest or one of the oldest children.  It appears that some of the children of Nathan Sr. did not leave Clark Co. until some time after his death in 1870. (He died one month after the census was taken.) Nathan Jr., Joseph M. & Moses are all in IN in May 1870.  By 1910, the only Carroll I have found so far in Clark County is Hugh Riley Carroll, son of  Joseph Martin Carroll.  Most of my ancestors were either born in, passed through, or settled in Clark County, so I spend a lot of time online researching Clark.  I had not thought to check Jefferson Co. - so thanks again for the information.  I am assuming this was Jefferson Co., KY, which is right across the river from Clark.  (Although, there is a Jefferson County, IN, just a few miles northeast.)  Please keep in touch.

 

Sharon McClure

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